Office Ladies

Second Drink: The Convention

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Podcast Listener Feedback and Behind-the-Scenes Details

* Multiple fans wrote in about continuity issues and production questions: * Continuity Catch #1: In season five, Meredith claims to have been having sex with a Hammer Mill rep for six years, but Hammer Mill was only exclusive to Staples until season three, creating a timeline inconsistency. The hosts playfully speculate that Meredith might not have been aware of the paper supplier details. * Behind-the-Scenes Production Detail: Fans asked about the black light scene in a hotel room and the "fluids" shown. Production designer Michael Gallenberg confirmed they used a special product called "Wildfire" - an industry-specific liquid reactive medium that is invisible in normal light, responds to black light, and is only available through film industry vendors. * A listener pointed out that BlackBerry was made by RIM (Research in Motion), not RAM, and the company is from Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

Episode Introduction: "The Convention" (Season 3, Episode 2)

* The podcast hosts Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey begin with a fan callback from Chris in Toronto about a scene where Angela's character storms off and leaves food behind. The hosts debate the consistency of leaving food during an argument, with Angela maintaining she would always take her food with her.

* Episode Summary: * Michael and Dwight travel to Philadelphia for the Northeastern Mid-Market Office Supply Convention * Jan, Jim, and Josh are also at the convention * Back at Dunder Mifflin, Kelly sets up Pam on a date with her neighbor Alan (a cartoonist) * Angela plans to surprise Dwight at the convention

* Guest Star Information: * Robert Bagnell plays Alan * Bagnell also appeared in HBO's "The Comeback" with Lisa Kudrow * Jenna and Robert previously worked together on Instant Films project

Production and Personal Connections

* Robert got his role on the show through Mike Schur, who was a writer on "The Comeback" * An interesting coincidence: Robert was in a movie written by Jenna's husband, Lee Kirk, called "Pants on Fire" - this script was actually how Jenna met her husband Lee * Mindy Kaling later shared that Robert beat out an SNL cast member for his role

Convention Scene Production Details

* Filming location: Burbank Hilton Hotel * Did not book entire hotel, but used largest convention room * Took two full days to set up the convention scene * The production team reached out to hundreds of corporations to participate as convention extras * Companies had to: * Bring their own convention materials * Set up their own booths * Provide their own staff and wardrobe * 176 total background performers participated * 140 were actual employees from real companies, which added authenticity to the scene * James Carey was the office manager who helped coordinate logistics * Angela recalls James as consistently helpful, assisting with personal tasks like printing

Almost-Cameo: Mackenzie Crook

* Mackenzie Crook (original Dwight from BBC version) was almost featured in the episode * He was in town for a press tour (potentially for Pirates of the Caribbean) * The idea was to have him appear briefly at the convention and interact with the US version's Dwight * Scheduling conflicts prevented the cameo from happening

Episode Scene Details

* Michael's Packing List: * 3 pairs of pants * 3 pairs of socks * 3 packs of condoms * "Fun jeans" (which are white) * He continues to dry clean his jeans

* Angela and Dwight Break Room Scene: * They stand back-to-back, not looking at each other * Angela is upset that Dwight is going on a work trip * Dwight is excited about the trip as an assistant regional manager * There was an alternate scene at the table read where Angela hints she might be pregnant, but it was cut for being "too soon" * Angela improvised the line "don't monkey me" at the end of the scene

* Deleted Scene Context: * Additional scenes (not in final cut) explain how Angela ultimately ends up at the hotel * Dwight secretly gives Angela a train ticket to meet him before leaving

Angela's Talking Head Scene

* A fly was buzzing around during filming on a hot August day with a "fly infestation" * Angela improvised lines about the fly and the "slow train from Philly" * The original scripted talking head was different from what aired * Writer Gene encouraged her to keep the improvised moments * The show often used "alt" (alternate) talking head scripts during filming

Office Scenes

* Pam is going on a first date with Kelly's neighbor Alan, a cartoonist * Pam notes she hasn't been on a first date in nine years * Michael offers inappropriate dating advice to Pam about her outfit * Angela storms out of the kitchen after Meredith comments about Philadelphia smelling like cheesesteaks * Creed asks about per diem money and later eats Angela's abandoned cereal * Creed refers to Angela as "Andrea, the office bitch" in a memorable line * Kevin makes an inappropriate comment about Pam being "back on the market" * Toby shows clear romantic interest in Pam, but she doesn't notice him * Paul Lieberstein (Toby) naturally drums on the desk while waiting to talk to Pam, which was a real-life habit of the actor * Fans noticed post-it notes on Pam's desk with TV show schedules, which Jenna revealed were her actual personal viewing plan: * Big Brother (CBS) * Animal Planet Jane Goodall special * A&E's First 48 Hours

Train Scene Details

* Michael and Dwight are traveling to Philadelphia by train * Michael is wearing Dwight's neck pillow and pretending not to hear Dwight * There was no direct passenger rail service between Scranton and Philadelphia when the episode was shot (now Amtrak offers two daily trains) * The scene was filmed on an actual Amtrak train, not a green screen * The production was allowed to shoot on the train for free * Filming occurred in the Simi Valley train station * A small crew with about five extras shot in the caboose car * Total train shooting time was approximately 24 minutes (10:30 AM to 11:27 AM)

Convention Scenes

* Jim, Michael, Dwight, and Josh are reunited at the convention * Dwight humorously modifies his name tag, adding "assistant to the regional manager" * Michael and Dwight set up their hotel room near the elevator, hoping for more "foot traffic" * Michael tries to get Jim and Josh to do shots * Jim and Josh share an inside joke that Michael and Dwight desperately try to join * Michael poignantly remarks that he wishes he could be part of an inside joke * Michael and Dwight wear matching gray Dunder Mifflin shirts while Jim and Josh wear similar light-colored button-down shirts * Michael is collecting lots of free "swag" at the convention (foam fingers, shirts, lanyards, sunglasses)

Jerome Bettis Cameo

* Jerome Bettis, a former NFL player, makes a cameo in the episode * Bettis was a halfback who played for the Rams and Pittsburgh Steelers * Retired after winning the Super Bowl in February 2006 * Recently hired by NBC Sports at the time * The cameo was arranged through an NBC representative (Vernon Sanders) * His nickname "the Bus" originated from his ability to continue running while carrying other players * Michael humorously misinterprets the nickname as meaning Bettis doesn't like to fly * Bettis was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015 * He has a charitable foundation called the Jerome Bettis Bus Stop Here Foundation

Personal Anecdotes

* Jenna shared a story about her dad wearing a Dunder Mifflin shirt while traveling for work, proudly telling people his daughter worked at the company * Both hosts discussed how their fathers would collect and display photos/memorabilia from their professional work * The hosts briefly discuss the movie "The Edge" with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin, which Angela found very stressful to watch

Key Character Moments

* Jim is at the convention and desperately wants to ask about Pam * Michael is curious why Jim left the paper company, taking it personally * A humorous moment involves Jim telling Michael to say hi to Ryan, which Michael takes very seriously * Michael tries to impress everyone by tipping with a $100 bill (worth $126.03 in today's money) * Jan criticizes Michael's unprofessional approach to the work trip * Jim and Pam have a brief, indirect interaction when Pam calls Michael: * Jim overhears Pam's voice * Jim learns Pam is now single * Pam realizes Jim knows she's single * Michael is upset with Jim for leaving for Stanford and not maintaining their friendship * A fan noticed a rubber ducky in two shots of the episode, likely a convention giveaway

Jim and Angela Scene

* Jim finds Angela in Dwight's hotel room, appearing like a potential "hooker" * Angela confirms it was her leg in the scene * She wore a pink long-sleeve top and black polka dot satin pajama pants * Angela and John (Jim) were excited to finally have a scene together * This might be the first time Angela calls Dwight "D"

Episode Resolution

* Pam's date with Alan was not successful * Michael feels abandoned by his friends at the convention * Jim reveals to Michael he left Scranton because of Pam, not because of Michael * Jim feels he has already expressed his feelings to Pam and is waiting for her to make a move * Michael ends up making a successful sale with Hammill representatives * Michael feels reconnected with Jim, declaring they are "best friends" * Jan is impressed with Michael's sales performance * The episode concludes with Michael experiencing a personal and professional "win"

Final Scene and Podcast Wrap-up

* The episode ends with Michael and Dwight in a hotel room where a black light reveals mysterious splatters * Dwight suggests the splatters could be blood, urine, or semen * Michael's memorable line: "God, I hope it's urine" * The hosts express enjoyment of rewatching and discussing the episode * Thanks given to Kent Sabornak for "Kentopedia facts" and Robert Bagnell, who now has a travel show on YouTube about Southeast Asia

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