Overview

* ABLE Danger, an innovative intelligence program launched in 1999, allegedly identified Mohammed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers in 2000, but attempts to share this intelligence with the FBI were reportedly blocked and the program was shut down in early 2001.

* Key whistleblowers, including Congressman Kurt Weldon, Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, and Army Major Eric, claim they faced severe personal and professional consequences for revealing how critical intelligence was suppressed, data was destroyed, and their testimony was blocked from official investigations.

* The speakers highlight troubling discrepancies in the official 9/11 investigation, including that it received only half the funding of the Monica Lewinsky investigation despite thousands of deaths, and excluded crucial ABLE Danger intelligence from the final report.

* The discussion explores potential international connections beyond Al-Qaeda, including possible links to Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Pakistan, while questioning whether the attack represented government incompetence, a controlled operation gone wrong, or something more deliberate.

* The participants advocate for a new presidential commission to thoroughly investigate 9/11, suggesting Trump might be uniquely positioned to reopen the case due to his New York connections and previous statements questioning the official narrative.

Content: 9/11 and ABLE Danger Investigation

Initial Discussion and Introduction

* The podcast features three key guests discussing 9/11 investigations and potential government cover-ups: * Kurt Weldon: 20-year Congress member and former fire chief * Tony Schaefer: Retired Army lieutenant colonel, defense intelligence agency officer * Eric: Former U.S. Army major and intelligence officer * This marks the first time these guests are appearing together live to discuss their experiences. * The discussion suggests a potential presidential commission on 9/11 under Trump.

ABLE Danger Program Overview

* Launched in late 1999, before 9/11, as an "off-the-books" intelligence operation * Initiated by General Hugh Shelton (Chairman of Joint Chiefs) and led by Pete Schoomaker at Special Operations Command * First time Special Operations Command was designated as the "supported sink" (lead agency) * Mission objectives: * Map Al-Qaeda's global network * Identify terrorist cells in the U.S. * Provide preemptive, actionable intelligence to disrupt terror plots * Used innovative data mining techniques combining open-source and classified intelligence * Assembled a team of unconventional thinkers rather than traditional terrorism experts

Key ABLE Danger Revelations

* Tony Schaefer claims ABLE Danger identified Mohammed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers in 2000 * Attempts to pass this information to the FBI were allegedly blocked by military lawyers * Eric testified he was ordered to destroy 2.5 terabytes of data with terrorist cell references * The team identified Al-Qaeda cells in multiple regions: * Northern Africa * Middle East * Far East * Within the United States (including specific cells in New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Florida, and Washington D.C.) * A military general (Lambert) claims he knew within seconds of the 9/11 attacks that Mohammed Atta was involved, based on ABLE Danger intelligence

Controversial Claims

* An FBI international leader allegedly told one speaker that two 9/11 terrorists were on the CIA payroll at the time of the attacks * While the CIA had information on two hijackers (Nafal al-Hazimi and Khalid al-Midhar), there's no definitive proof they were on the payroll * The team was unexpectedly prevented from testifying at a Senate hearing, being told they couldn't attend on the morning of the hearing

Program Shutdown and Aftermath

* ABLE Danger was stood down when the Bush administration came into power in January 2001 * The program unexpectedly revealed names of prominent American leaders in relation to Chinese technology acquisition * Received a cease and desist order in spring 2002 * Required to delete data after 90 days due to collection of U.S. persons' information * Deletion occurred under legal threat, with personnel feeling they might have prevented 9/11

Investigation Discrepancies

* The speaker compares investigation costs of two significant events: * Monica Lewinsky scandal: $30 million spent * 9/11: Only $15 million spent, despite 2,977 deaths and subsequent 4,500 related deaths * The 9/11 Commission did not include ABLE Danger information in their report * The Department of Defense Inspector General (DODIG) refused to interview key personnel like Lambert during their investigation * The Commission ignored the pre-9/11 Gilmore Commission, which had written five reports with recommendations that largely mirrored later 9/11 Commission findings

Personal Consequences for Whistleblowers

* Kurt Weldon claims he was targeted by what he perceives as a "Deep State" conspiracy that ended his political career: * The White House approved a Department of Justice raid on his daughter's house three weeks before an election * He believes George W. Bush was not directly responsible, but was surrounded by people like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Rove who were involved * Tony Schaefer was suspended by Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in 2004 after disclosing his role in ABLE DANGER operation * Was later promoted to Lieutenant Colonel by the Army, despite DIA's actions * Weldon claims two of his CIA-connected staffers died under suspicious circumstances: * John Quirk died of fast-moving stomach cancer after being threatened * Peter Prye also died unexpectedly after working closely with Weldon

Biden's Involvement

* Joe Biden spoke highly of Congressman Weldon as a "loyal American" * Acknowledged Weldon shared prescient information * Expressed frustration that Defense Department witnesses were pulled from the hearing * Highlighted a personal relationship with Weldon: * Traveled together to Iraq and Libya * Biden attended Weldon's son's funeral * Called Weldon after he lost an election in 2006

Broader Context and Financial Aspects

* Project for the New American Century (PNAC): * Founded in 1997 by neoconservatives including Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, and Paul Wolfowitz * Called for removing Saddam Hussein from power * Predicted a transformative event would be needed to shift U.S. policy, comparing it to "a new Pearl Harbor" * Financial aspects discussed: * $8 trillion total cost related to 9/11 * $2.3 trillion spent in Afghanistan * $2.3 trillion spent in Iraq * Don Rumsfeld announced $2.3 trillion missing from Pentagon funds on September 10th, 2001 * Larry Silverstein leased World Trade Center six weeks before 9/11 and received $4.55 billion insurance payout after adding a terrorism clause to the policy

Bin Laden and International Connections

* The speakers discuss various theories about bin Laden's whereabouts after 9/11: * Weldon claims to have gathered evidence suggesting bin Laden was placed in Iran after 9/11 * Claims this was arranged through third countries with U.S. "plausible deniability" * Potentially negotiated with Iranian Revolutionary Guard (IRG), not government leadership * Saudi Arabia connections: * 15 out of 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals * Declassified 28 pages (2016) raised questions about possible Saudi support networks * Saudi royal family potentially connected to bin Laden * Other countries potentially linked to 9/11: * Pakistan (Osama bin Laden found near military academy) * UAE (two hijackers originated from there) * Iran (hijackers transitioned through without passport stamps)

Alternative Theories and Perspectives

* The speaker outlines five potential scenarios for 9/11: 1. Government incompetency 2. Controlled operation gone wrong 3. Omission (failure to control) 4. Deliberate allowance of the attack 5. Full government planning of the attack * Judy Wood's Directed Energy Weapon (DEW) theory is discussed: * Wood is an engineer with degrees in civil engineering, mechanics, and material science * Key observations include unusually small debris pile, strangely damaged cars, and unexpected seismic data

Call for New Investigation

* The speakers call for a new presidential commission to investigate 9/11 * Recommend bringing together various experts (architects, engineers, firefighters, lawyers) * Suggest Donald Trump might be uniquely positioned to reopen the investigation due to: * His New York connections * Knowledge of building structures * Past statements questioning the official narrative * The primary goal expressed is finding the truth about what happened on 9/11