Key Takeaways
- "Lady Bird" is selected as one of the 25 best movies of the 21st century and a defining millennial coming-of-age film.
- Greta Gerwig's directorial debut, "Lady Bird," explores complex mother-daughter dynamics and socioeconomic themes.
- The film is seen as a millennial update to John Hughes films, resonating with its specific 2002 setting and pop culture references.
- The podcast compares "Lady Bird" with other prominent films, including Gerwig's "Little Women" and "Frances Ha."
Deep Dive
- Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins introduce "Lady Bird" as part of their ongoing "25 Best Movies of the 21st Century" project.
- The film is Greta Gerwig's directorial debut and is their most traditional coming-of-age selection.
- Gerwig's background as an actress in the mumblecore scene is noted before her emergence as a significant filmmaker.
- "Lady Bird" was A24's biggest hit at its release, grossing $70 million, and is the only A24 film on the list.
- The discussion highlights how "Lady Bird" realistically depicts class distinctions and adolescent desires for possessions and social standing.
- Visuals, such as real estate, cramped homes, and aspirational spaces, are used to illustrate financial struggles.
- Characters' thrift store shopping habits are explicitly referenced as a marker of their economic status.
- The film's approach to class feels distinct due to its independent film roots blended with Hollywood sensibility, unlike "Say Anything" or "Pretty in Pink."
- Sacramento is identified as a key element of "Lady Bird," reflecting Greta Gerwig's personal connection to the city.
- Gerwig's directorial style is noted for opening the film with a Joan Didion quote about Sacramento.
- Her ability to portray generational desires is discussed, contrasting with her current large-scale projects like "Barbie" and "Narnia."
- The hosts express a desire to see Gerwig return to smaller, character-driven stories.
- The film primarily focuses on the complex and resonant mother-daughter relationship, portrayed by Laurie Metcalf.
- Metcalf's character is presented as a complex individual navigating personal disappointments and parenting challenges, not a one-dimensional archetype.
- Lady Bird is depicted as an "echo" of her mother, often treating close relationships harshly.
- The father's role as a gentle mediator contrasts with the strong personalities of Lady Bird and her mother.
- "Lady Bird" is considered a quintessential "first-time directorial debut" for its generation, compared to seminal works like Nas's 'Illmatic.'
- The film highlights Gerwig's recurring themes of money, class, independence, and artistic anxiety.
- Transitional and adolescent themes are present in "Lady Bird," "Little Women," and "Barbie."
- Saoirse Ronan's performance as Lady Bird, filmed when Ronan was 21 or 22, reflects Greta Gerwig's unique speaking cadence.
- The film's ending threads the thematic needle between the concepts of home and escape.
- It depicts a poignant sadness in the mother character's inability to fully reconcile with her daughter.
- This non-traditional, realistic ending contrasts with typical Hollywood narratives.
- One host relates to the film's theme of aspiration and escaping one's origins, recalling a personal 'peak' moment from college.
- The film's music includes a mix of personal favorites, popular songs, and lesser-known tracks, reflecting Gerwig's specific choices.
- Greta Gerwig's outreach to artists like Dave Matthews Band and Alanis Morissette for the soundtrack is discussed.
- Specific musical choices, such as an Ani DiFranco song and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's 'The Crossroads,' are highlighted.
- The inclusion of Dave Matthews Band's 'Crash,' which sold 10 million albums, is considered a pivotal detail in the narrative.
- "Lady Bird" received five Academy Award nominations but did not secure any wins.
- The film lost Best Original Screenplay to "Get Out" and Supporting Actress to Allison Janney.
- Frances McDormand won Best Actress, while "The Shape of Water" won Best Director and Best Picture.
- A.O. Scott of The New York Times provided critical praise for the film.
- The hosts debate whether "Little Women" or "Frances Ha" should have been included on the list instead of "Lady Bird."
- One host expresses a preference for "Frances Ha," citing its introduction of Greta Gerwig's work and relatable character portrayal.
- "Little Women" is described as a propulsive, modern, and warm adaptation, with Florence Pugh and Meryl Streep's performances highlighted.
- Despite its critical and commercial success, "Little Women" faced a highly competitive 2019 field, including "Parasite."