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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#448 — The Philosophy of Good and Evil

Key Takeaways

  • Moral philosophy extensively utilizes thought experiments, often sparking debate over their artificiality.
  • The trolley problem highlights discrepancies between moral intuitions in direct versus indirect harm scenarios.
  • Consequentialism defines morality based solely on an action's outcomes, challenging common ethical judgments.
  • The distinction between intending harm and merely foreseeing it is a critical ethical consideration.

Deep Dive

  • Guest David Edmonds, a former BBC journalist, now focuses on philosophy and practical ethics at Oxford's UHero Institute.
  • His book, "Death in a Shallow Pond," explores Peter Singer and the history of consequentialism.
  • The book uses Singer's "drowning child" thought experiment as a vehicle after Singer declined a biography.

  • The trolley problem, introduced by Philippa Foote in 1967 and varied by Judith Jarvis Thompson in 1985, presents two scenarios.
  • One involves diverting a runaway train to save five people, killing one on a side track.
  • The other involves pushing a person from a footbridge to stop the train, also saving five lives at the cost of one.
  • Despite identical body counts, most people find diverting permissible but pushing impermissible.

  • Consequentialism is defined as the ethical theory that asserts only the consequences of an action determine its morality.
  • A pure consequentialist would find no moral difference between the two trolley problem scenarios if their outcomes are identical (one death, five saved).
  • The field of studying these dilemmas is referred to as 'trolleology,' examining psychological differences in moral judgments.

  • The host posed a hypothetical where a doctor could save five patients by euthanizing one healthy individual for organ transplants.
  • While narrow consequentialism might permit this, the host argued it would erode societal trust and instill pervasive fear.
  • The guest acknowledged the terror this would cause if widely known but noted philosophers often present such dilemmas as isolated.

  • The guest elaborates on the ethical distinction between intending harm and merely foreseeing it, relating it to the doctrine of double effect.
  • This concept explores whether using someone as a means to an end differs from situations where harm is foreseen but not intended.
  • The host expressed skepticism about this distinction, equating it to collateral damage in warfare where death is certain.

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