Joe Lonsdale: American Optimist

Ep 109: Anson Frericks on the Rise & Fall of Budweiser; Milton Friedman vs Klaus Schwab; and How to Save Corporate America

Overview

Content

Corporate Purpose and Competing Models

* Two competing schools of thought about corporate purpose have existed since the 1970s: * Milton Friedman's view: Focus on shareholder value * European/World Economic Forum view: Serve all stakeholders equally * The shareholder-focused US model has significantly outperformed the European stakeholder model: * S&P 500 averaged 10% annual returns vs. European indices at 7% * $100,000 invested in 1970 would be worth $4.5 million in US markets compared to $1.5 million in European markets * American states are generally wealthier than European countries, demonstrating the prosperity generated by US free market capitalism

Anson Frerichs Background and Anheuser-Busch Experience

* Yale undergraduate, Harvard Business School graduate * Professional experience includes Citadel, Summit Partners, and serving as president at Anheuser-Busch * Co-founded Strive Asset Management with Vivek Ramaswamy * Left Anheuser-Busch due to concerns about the company's ESG and DEI initiatives

Anheuser-Busch's Transformation

* Originally acquired by InBev (3G Capital), a Brazilian investment group known for consolidating beer and food industries * 3G Capital was initially focused on meritocracy and hiring top talent, led by entrepreneurs like Georgie Paulo Lehman and Marcel Telles * Significant cultural shifts occurred after acquisition: * Corporate headquarters moved from St. Louis to New York City (2015-2016) * Shift driven by European leadership preferring urban, "cosmopolitan" environments * Moved away from traditional Midwest market where they had 60-70% market share * Current leadership consists of children of original 3G owners, described as strong believers in ESG principles * Frerichs attempted to partner with Black Rifle Coffee Company but was blocked by the external affairs team based on perceived controversy and potential DEI conflicts

The Rise of ESG and DEI

* ESG and DEI initiatives emerged after the 2008 financial crisis as banks attempted to repair their public image * Originally stemmed from a 2005 UN human rights initiative * Became mechanisms for creating financial indexes and charging higher fees * The Business Roundtable in 2019 evolved corporate purpose beyond shareholder focus * COVID-19 accelerated corporate distraction from core missions: * Companies compelled to produce medical supplies, conduct testing, create hand sanitizer * Crisis response quickly shifted to other "existential" issues

The Influence of Major Asset Managers

* BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard have significant influence in corporate governance: * They are the largest shareholders in 95% of S&P 500 companies * They control 20-30% of voting shares in major corporations * They've been pushing corporate policy changes through shareholder proposals * Significant shift in ESG proposal success rates: * Pre-2019: Less than 2% of proposals passed * By 2021: 30-40% of proposals passing, covering topics like racial equity, policing, election laws, and energy production

Corporate DEI Implementation and Consequences

* DEI initiatives originally intended to find the "best and brightest" across diverse backgrounds * Evolved into more controversial approaches involving quota systems and perceived exclusionary practices * Promotions for white males in Fortune 500 companies reportedly dropped from 50-60% to around 6-7% * Many companies moved away from meritocracy toward diversity-focused hiring * Bud Light's transgender-related marketing campaign became a pivotal case study: * Triggered significant consumer backlash * Resulted in millions of consumers abandoning the brand * Erased billions in shareholder value * Exposed problems with ESG and DEI corporate strategies

The Founding of Strive Asset Management

* Founded to drive a "cultural revolution" across corporate America * Goal: Return businesses to focusing on core missions and bottom line * Push back against activist-driven corporate agendas * Initial ideas included concepts like: * "Merit Airlines" (hiring top 5% of pilots regardless of background) * "Pop Without Politics" (an alternative to Coca-Cola) * A free speech-focused social media platform * Ultimately chose asset management as a way to potentially influence corporate culture across America * Investment philosophy: * Focus on companies executing their core mission * Avoid pushing social/political agendas * Prioritize business performance

Current Trends and Future Outlook

* Many companies are now walking back DEI initiatives: * Goldman Sachs reducing quota systems * Amazon, Meta, and others scaling back DEI and ESG policies * Some companies like Costco and JP Morgan continue to maintain these initiatives * The "Overton window" has opened, making it easier to critique DEI approaches * More people are willing to challenge corporate social justice initiatives * The Supreme Court case Students for Fair Admission vs. Harvard (overturning affirmative action) is cited as an example of potential societal realignment * The speaker is optimistic about: * A return to meritocracy where individuals are promoted based on merit rather than identity * An era of increased economic prosperity and innovation as businesses refocus * America's ability to self-correct and pursue "a more perfect union"

Perspectives on Vivek Ramaswamy

* Left Strive to run for president, focusing on democracy while the company continued its mission * Described as an excellent listener who: * Provides honest, direct feedback * Collaborates effectively * Uses a first-principles approach to understanding truth * Is willing to change opinions when facts change

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