Honestly with Bari Weiss

Andrew Cuomo on His Past and New York’s Future

Overview

Content: Andrew Cuomo's Potential Political Comeback

Context and Current Campaign

* The podcast episode focuses on Andrew Cuomo's potential political comeback as a candidate for New York City mayor. * Cuomo's political trajectory shows dramatic shifts: * In 2020, he was at the height of popularity during COVID-19 with 59 million viewers watching his briefings * Experienced a dramatic fall from grace due to two major scandals: 1. Sexual harassment allegations against 11 women 2. Controversial handling of nursing home COVID-19 deaths * Completely disappeared from public life after resignation * As of May 2025, Cuomo is the frontrunner for NYC mayor: * Polling at 37% among Democrats * His closest competitor is Zoran Mamdani, a 33-year-old socialist state assemblyman at 18%

Campaign Issues and Positioning

* Cuomo is running in the June 24th Democratic primary, seeing the election as important both locally and for understanding lessons from the Trump era * New York City faces significant challenges: * Population loss (around 500,000 people post-COVID) * Public safety concerns * Subway safety * Homelessness * Affordability * General sense of urban chaos * Cuomo defends his campaign strategy as focused on direct engagement with New Yorkers: * Emphasizes his long political history and deep relationship with New York voters * Claims intimate knowledge of the city's challenges and solutions * Has raised $1.5 million with about 2,000 donors (compared to his competitor's 15,000 donors through DSA support)

Political Philosophy and Evolution

* Cuomo argues he has not changed politically, but rather the Democratic Party is "in search of an identity" * Defines "progressive" as: * Making practical progress for working people * Doing tangible things that improve people's lives * Not just theoretical or conceptual * Cites his own progressive achievements as governor: * Marriage equality in 2011 * Minimum wage increases * Codifying Roe v. Wade protections * Free college tuition * Infrastructure improvements * Distinguishes between traditional progressives (like FDR, Mario Cuomo, Ted Kennedy) and what he calls the "far left" or "democratic socialists" * Strongly criticizes the current far-left wing of the Democratic Party, arguing they are: * Disconnected from working-class constituents * Promoting unrealistic socialist policies * Alienating traditional Democratic voters * Explicitly rejects identifying with politicians like AOC and Bernie Sanders

Democratic Party Critique

* Regarding Trump's increased vote share in New York City, Cuomo attributes this to: * Democratic Party disconnection from core constituencies * Government dysfunction * Disregarding economic needs of working/middle class * Criticizes divisive political strategies, especially within the Democratic Party: * Views division as playing into Trump's political strategy * Warns against allowing identity-based conflicts to fragment political unity * Highlights rising anti-Semitism on college campuses as a problematic example * Emphasizes the American ideal of "E pluribus unum" (unity from diversity) * Acknowledges the party has "jumped the shark" and become too focused on niche issues: * Recognizes losing touch with working-class and minority voters * Suggests the party needs self-reflection and course correction * Discusses the "three D's" in the Democratic Party's challenges: disconnection from base, government dysfunction, and division

Policy Positions and Critiques

Criminal Justice and Public Safety

* Criticizes current political leadership for city disorder * Blames "government paralysis" and fear of offending niche constituencies * Highlights problems with the "defund the police" movement * Discusses challenges with criminal justice reforms like: * Bail reform * Raise the age legislation * Reduction of police force * Defends some reforms (like "raise the age") as humane while acknowledging implementation issues * Argues against an overemphasis on civil liberties that prevents addressing mental health issues

Housing Affordability

* Identifies housing as a critical issue in New York City * Argues government subsidies are necessary to create affordable housing * Highlights bureaucratic obstacles to housing development, including: * City council veto power * Difficult state and city housing programs * Community opposition ("NIMBY" challenges) * Claims personal experience in building housing units

Education

* Notes New York spends $30,000 per student, highest in the nation * Criticizes poor educational outcomes, citing Mississippi overtaking New York in reading scores * Proposes educational reforms: * Return to phonics and basic math instruction * Expand early childhood learning * Integrate childcare and after-school programs * Provide free college or vocational training * Modernize educational model beyond traditional K-12 approach * Views on teachers' unions: * Considers them the most powerful political force in the Democratic Party * Supports unions generally, crediting them with creating the middle class * Believes in charter schools but wants to focus on improving the public school system * Discusses personal experience with parochial school and supporting a tax exemption for families paying private school tuition

Immigration

* Describes the migrant issue as a critical problem for the Democratic Party * Criticizes the federal administration's immigration approach as poorly planned * Views Governor Abbott's busing of migrants as politically effective but inhumane * Highlights tensions in New York City around migrant support, with some residents feeling frustrated about resources given to migrants

Critique of Socialist Opponent

* Criticizes Zoran Mamdani's platform as fundamentally socialist, with unrealistic policy proposals including: * $30 minimum wage * 200,000 new rent-stabilized homes * Government-controlled grocery stores * Free transportation, childcare, and college * Notes Mamdani supports the BDS movement against Israel * Raises concerns about potential anti-Semitism in pro-Palestinian activism * Argues that extreme political positions create societal divisions * Suggests candidates like Mamdani represent a potential future of the Democratic Party, despite controversial positions

Current Mayor Eric Adams

* Describes Adams as a longtime friend now running as an independent * Criticizes Adams for: * Losing New Yorkers' confidence due to city deterioration * Getting into a personal conflict with the U.S. attorney * Making a controversial deal with Trump involving immigration * Prioritizing personal interests over city needs * On the Trump-Adams interaction: * Trump offered to drop charges in exchange for cooperation on immigration * Left a caveat to potentially reinstate charges * The deal was seen as politically damaging for Adams * Characterizes Adams as "tragic" in the lightning round

COVID-19 and Nursing Homes

* Acknowledges mistakes were made during the pandemic * Argues that New York followed federal guidance on nursing home policies * Claims Trump politically weaponized nursing home deaths against Democratic governors * States New York was 38th in nursing home death rates nationally, with only 12 states performing better * Suggests initial policy was based on changing federal quarantine guidelines * Criticizes conservative media narrative about New York's pandemic response

Resignation and Harassment Allegations

* Resigned in August 2021 following Attorney General's report of harassment allegations * Maintains his innocence and believes the allegations were politically motivated * In retrospect, he would not have resigned * Cited his father's advice about not distracting from government functioning as reason for stepping down * Claims the case has "no there, there" and he was ultimately dropped from the case

Personal Insights

* Lightning round responses: * Best NYC mayor: Fiorello LaGuardia * Most important lesson from father: "Do what you think is right" * Favorite cars: 67 Corvette, 72 Chevelle * Best pizza: Gabby's Pizza in Queens * Sports allegiance: Supports both Yankees and Mets * Most powerful unnamed NYC political figure: Teachers union president * One-word characterizations of public figures: * Jamie Dimon: "Tough" * Al Sharpton: "Character" * AOC: "Provocative" * Eric Adams: "Tragic" * Donald Trump: "Frightening" * Daniel Penny: "Sad" * On his daughters potentially running for office: * Would not encourage them to run in the current political environment * On his religious faith: * Has become more spiritual and finds faith increasingly important * Believes faith helped him through a difficult period * Values spiritual connection more than formal church attendance * Advises others going through tough times to reconnect with their faith

Campaign Message

* Urges Democratic primary voters to participate to: * Prevent far-left activists from dominating * Address New York City's current challenges * Prevent further city deterioration * Positions himself as experienced and competent to address city's problems * Emphasizes his governmental competence, highlighting: * Running state government for 11 years * Completing budgets on time * Managing larger legislative bodies * Taking positions on public safety and policing

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